Check out our awesome collection now. It was also the last year that Western manufactured their knives in Boulder, Colorado. This type of data sharing may be considered a sale of information under California privacy laws. The knife had been made by his brother, Rezin, a year prior. by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:44 am, Post 1,516,995, 2,758,374 $86.70, $289.00 It is a V-44 pattern made for the US military by multiple manufacturers. My grandfather carried this one for 50 years: You must log in or register to reply here. First off let me say this forum appears to be populated by some very knowledgeable people and some impressive knife makers. Nearly a foot and a half long. I hope that there will be enough detail for me to identify the order of tang and guard stamp introduction on the W49s and other models as well. Bowie Knives - Knife Depot Looking for a real knife? SKIP. But you know that. don't carry it much, but wouldn't trade it for anything except maybe a new truck. An old and proven friend. Turning off the personalized advertising setting wont stop you from seeing Etsy ads or impact Etsy's own personalization technologies, but it may make the ads you see less relevant or more repetitive. +C $35.71 shipping estimate. The guard wasn't fitted well. The one that I have with a couple of bends in the blade came from me chopping a couple branches off from a dead piece of tree many years ago. i have had a western bowie for 30 years. (45% off), Sale Price 3,386,453 I still havent actually put my hands on one of the W49s with the chrome plating. (70% off), Sale Price $134.97 Never sharpened, carried, or cleaned. 2,500,000, 3,571,429 Original Price 4,186,946 I hope this helps, Brad? Original Price $149.97 Cut off the top guard years ago. Original Price $150.00 Free shipping on orders $99+. Original Price $200.00 It is stamped "WESTERN BOULDER / COLO. USA on one side and BOWIE on the other. By: Westmark Knives Date Added: 02/22/2018 $175.00 Buy Now. Take this Hibben bowie knife with you into the most untamed environments and use it under the harshest conditions The bowie has a keenly sharp, 14" stainless steel, clip point blade with a high-polish finish and a beefy profile The red-brown, natural-look wooden handle is complemented by a gold-plated blade catcher and handguard Create an Account Stay up to date withYour Favorite Knife Makers. I did it out of personal curiosity when I got my Forester.   Vietnam   |   English (US)   |   (VND), remembering account, browser, and regional preferences, remembering privacy and security settings, personalized search, content, and recommendations, helping sellers understand their audience, showing relevant, targeted ads on and off Etsy. $184.50, $615.00 You must log in or register to reply here.   United States   |   English (US)   |   $ (USD). The "J" on you knife is a date code. I knew your research was fairly extensive and that you had more info than I could ever find in a short timethat's why I linked to your thread from KF. It took me about thirty minutes to get halfway through the log. Tim-I found out a long time ago, from returning Vietnam veterans, was that they gave away their knives to buddies or indig troops before they left. The straight-edge knife is fitted with a 7-inch blade and. Western started doing this in 1977 and Coleman/Western continued it. For further info Google: "Bill Bagwell" or "Bagwell Bowie" Re: SOF magazine article c.1987 April issue, MySpace !function(d,s,id){var js,fjs=d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0];if(!d.getElementById(id)){js=d.createElement(s);js.id=id;js.src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js";fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js,fjs);}}(document,"script","twitter-wjs"); (15% off), Sale Price 1,812,130 For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I was surprised by the thinness of the spine. by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:42 am, Post Copyright 2004-2023 allaboutpocketknives.com. They all have heavy use and both have the sheaths replaced after they rotted away. I have attempted to research these Western knives, of late, and, to be honest with you, the the deeper I dig the more confused I get. These two variations appear during the time period of 1964 to at least 1967. If it is legible and anyone can fill in any blanks or dispute any of the data, I am receptive to discussion. So their history is rather murky, to say the least. The exception being that instead of the word Bowie on the pile side it would say "W49." There was a problem subscribing you to this newsletter. Its also home to a whole host of one-of-a-kind items made with love and extraordinary care. (45% off), Sale Price 1,056,736 $89.17, $297.22 western style Bowie knife Hammerheadknife (13) $200.00 FREE shipping More like this Large bowie knife ForgeZbk (14) $599.24 FREE shipping More like this 10 inches Blade Hand crafted Bowie knife, Bushcraft knife, full tang, leaf spring of truck, Tempered, Razor Sharpen, Ready to use Famouskukri (186) $149.99 $249.99 (40% off) FREE shipping AH, I was unaware of this point. It is blade marked: WESTERN / USA / W49 with the letter "A" which signifies the first year that Western implemented the alphabetical date code (1977). You are using an out of date browser. To enable personalized advertising (like interest-based ads), we may share your data with our marketing and advertising partners using cookies and other technologies. 2,370,466, 4,740,933 View Etsys Privacy Policy. Vintage 14 1/2" Western W49 Bowie Knife with Sheath. An "I" version would be from 1985, the year after Coleman took over. Im thinking these must have come from their custom shop. 2023 Created by Jan Carter. The Timber Rattler Western Outlaw is an attention grabber with its classic gray hardwood handle. I like them very much. I cleaned them up and blued one of them for a more uniform patina. Western Bowie Knife (1 - 40 of 159 results) Price ($) Shipping All Sellers 16-Inch Old Western Bowie Knife D2 Steel Fixed Blade Wooden Handle / Leather Knife Sheath scorpionhubus (30) $135.00 $150.00 (10% off) FREE shipping Tombstone Ike / Billy Clanton Bowie knife custom-made Hand grind in Texas carbon 1985 steel antler Handle made to order 1 week The W49s did leave the factory with a high polish on them. Orsold or pawned to shops in Fayettenam! This full-tang sawback Bowie knife is designed for heavy use in brutal survival situations. In that year, the company was sold to Coleman, becoming Coleman-Western. The jets rip has an easily broken cat guard and a very thick grind not and efficient chopper . I own one like this and I believe its version 1, there is a second stainless steel version that came out shortly after guard marked STAINLESS STEEL over BOWIE just like you said but I believe that to be version 2, let me know your thoughts. You are using an out of date browser. You've already signed up for some newsletters, but you haven't confirmed your address. Timber Rattler Western Outlaw Bowie Knife $29.99 Gil Hibben Assault Tactical Knife With Sheath $77.99 Gil Hibben Highlander Bowie Damascus with Sheath $169.99 $116.98! Both have stacked leather handles, and 8" Marble's Ideal style blades. razor sharp and good in the hand. (30% off), Sale Price 2,093,350 Craftsmanship . My cousin (who served in Vietnam from 1968 to 1969) said he saw knives in country with chrome plating to protect them from moisture. Shipping Discounts Available for Multiple Items Purchased from Sanders Knives: If this item is purchased with another item from Sanders Knives that has a shipping cost of $8.50 or more, standard shipping to US addresses for this item will be discounted to $1.00. Original Price 7,118,227 Powered by Invision Community. Western made at least two different stock numbered "bowies" during the Vietnam time period. I can hope. Heres my question. Turning off personalized advertising opts you out of these sales. Learn more in our Privacy Policy., Help Center, and Cookies & Similar Technologies Policy. (20% off), Sale Price $36.50 i don't need to use it too much. by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:45 am, Post If you come across a chrome plated Western Bowie it was probably plated for jungle use. I carry it with me on all my excursions. Inspect in Game. Through name changes--to Western States Cutlery Co. in 1953, then Western Cutlery Co. in 1956--and moves first across town and later to Longmont Colorado, the company stayed under the leadership of the Platt family until 1984. Original Price 2,460,591 The knife on the right in my picture above is an example of the 3rd variant. Is that a bad thing that it is not a Western Knife but a Coleman instead? Send me exclusive offers, unique gift ideas, and personalized tips for shopping and selling on Etsy. Western started making stainless versions of some of their knives as early as 1967. The western being thinner bites better. Original Price 1,243,264 Original Price 6,157,389 here's a pic of the western along side an old trailmaster and recon. According to Western's 1986 catalog they started producing the W49 in 1964. Good news! Vintage Western folding pocket knife. $135.00, $150.00 Engraved on brass guard CON EVANS and on the other side of guard CHICO. $110. by kootenay joe Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:03 pm, Post Shipping policies vary, but many of our sellers offer free shipping when you purchase from them. The marking are very important. Vintage Western U.S.A W49 Bowie Knife Pre-Owned C $337.45 Top Rated Seller or Best Offer from United States Sponsored Extremely rare, Western Cutlery, model W49 Bowie fighting knife C $607.40 or Best Offer from United States Sponsored Vintage Large Western Bowie Knife W49 F Pre-Owned C $337.44 Buy It Now +C $27.52 shipping estimate It has been custom painted with knotwork. Very few guys that I can recall actually had theirs. I have never found any reference to Western chroming their knives. Original Price $28.00 There are things in the old Book which I may not be able to explain, but I fully accept it as the infallible word of God, and receive its teachings as inspired by the Holy Spirit.. Etsys 100% renewable electricity commitment includes the electricity used by the data centers that host Etsy.com, the Sell on Etsy app, and the Etsy app, as well as the electricity that powers Etsys global offices and employees working remotely from home in the US. See the full list: Hotels near Worlds Largest Bowie Knife. Vintage Western folding pocket knife # 51 Made in the USA!!! The Timber Rattler Western Outlaw Bowie Knife is the best of the best when it comes to getting a great bowie knife on a budget. Designed by Jim Bowie and fabricated first by Jesse Clifft, the almost 10-inch-long blade had a flat spine and no guard between its blade and handle. (25% off), Sale Price $77.64 Original Price 2,339,655 Some made in Australia had cast aluminum handles. Below are pictures of the guard: To the best of my knowledge the 4th variant would have the larger pins and would be guard marked similar to the 3rd variant. Original Price 1,898,817 (25% off), Sale Price 2,603,550 It appears that much was lost during the periods that Western changed hands. The side by side testing I mentioned was chopping through a five inch thick seasoned locust log. Consistently earned 5-star reviews, shipped orders on time, and replied quickly to messages, Looks like you already have an account! 1,218,966, 2,216,502 Thanks zzyzzogeton! A classic made in the USA bowie that vanished once camillus went bust. Rare WW11 large Bowie knife made by Jack Soler from Allentown PA was a U.S. Navy Seabee during World War 11. Blade edge is still quite sharp, and blade has been old period cleaned and is . I'm curious on the W49/ or other western knife bowies as a woods knife. Because it still seems like an amazing knife. I am aware of much of the history of the Western Bowie knife company and how the w49s were originally made for the special forces but what I cannot seem to find is wat year the model I was made. Chrome is very hard and resist a lot of the normal scratching that would show on other knives. Under Add your personalization, the text box will tell you what the seller needs to know. Thanks for all the Western Bowie related info, catalog links, etc. This massive knife was used in early Vietnam era it measures 15" from tip to hilt. If there is a letter on the blade under the Western name it is post 1977. There is another subset of the W49 knives what I term . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Knife_Company. I have owned alot of these knives and in fact the picture is of my knife. I have a long list of knives I kick myself for not buying. I didn't really like it so I gave it to my brother. For Sale: Custom & Semi Production Knives (Dealer), KnifeMaker's Market: Knives & More for Sale, Wanted: Knifemaker / Craftsman / Related Services, Busse / Swamprat / Scrapyard Knives For Sale, For Sale: Traditionals, Slipjoints, "Old Timey", International (Non-US) For Sale & Trade Forums, https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/new-members-please-read-this-what-is-my-knife-worth.904093/. 1,637,685, 2,339,655 $134.97, $149.97 You could buy it for its charming looks alone, but it performs nearly as well. Western Knives of Boulder Colorado made four models of the Bowie knife. (45% off), Sale Price 1,637,685 Thanks! Etsys 100% renewable electricity commitment includes the electricity used by the data centers that host Etsy.com, the Sell on Etsy app, and the Etsy app, as well as the electricity that powers Etsys global offices and employees working remotely from home in the US. Original Price $121.00 Charlie, How easy or difficult is it to come across a Western Bowie that actually looks like it may have seen use during the Vietnam War. Theres still a lot to uncover about this subject. Many of the examples of Vietnam War vintage Bowies do not appear to have traveled any further west than the California shoreline . Original Price $31.38 It was also the last year they were made in Boulder, CO. - They moved to Longmont, CO. in 1978 and continued the alphabet dating code for another 15 years until they were sold at auction to Camillus in 1991. Charlie, Teslleta: Here it is. At least as far as I've been able to determine. If the knife has the original leather sheath I expect to see some pretty hard use on that leather. Please check your browser settings or contact your system administrator. Original Price 2,610,345 While the official end of the Vietnam war is April 30 1975 The day the North Vietnamese entered the U.S. Embassy grounds. I have handled about five Western Bowies that were used in Vietnam. With the above in mind at this time I would advise you to look for knives with one of the following markings: This is generally excepted as the first variation of the W49, This is the next version of blade marking the W49. This knife has a stock number of S-649. : Western USA W49 Wood Bowie Fixed Blade Knife & Sheath c.1984, SPRING HILL CUTLERY (eBay: bargainseller02), Western Boulder, Colo. Cracked Ice Knife & Hatch Set 1935 to 1950, VINTAGE WESTERN R16 USA M FIXED BLADE HUNTING SKINNING BOWIE SURVIVAL KNIFE KNIVES OLD SHEATH, VINTAGE WESTERN 742 STOCKMAN JACK PEN FOLDING POCKET KNIFE KNIVES OLD ANTIQUE, VINTAGE 1983 WESTERN USA W77 G FIXED BLADE COMBAT FIGHTING DIRK DAGGER BOOT KNIFE KNIVES OLD, Vintage MINT Westmark 701 hunting knife and original leather sheath, WESTER CUTLERY CO. GERMANY 2 1/2" 2 BLADE PEARL CONGRESS LIKE NEW, Western Cutlery Germany Bone Congress Knife, WESTERN USA, W36 Fixed Blade Knife and Sheath. It's the 30s to 76 that is sometimes enigmatic. MERRY CHRISTMAS! Value for money . Thick edges annoy me. The 4th variant also has larger pins. 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At first only a jobbing business, by 1920 construction and machinery purchases were underway to begin manufacture of knives. Facebook, Tags: Bagwell-Bowie, Bowie, Vintage, Western-Cutlery-W49. (45% off), Sale Price 1,708,876 1,435,714, 2,610,345 In 2020 alone, purchases on Etsy generated nearly $4 billion in income for small businesses. Etsy is powered by 100% renewable electricity. Take full advantage of our site features by enabling JavaScript. (45% off), Sale Price 2,438,424 I don't know how long they made this knife but by the 1978 catalog it has disappeared. Thanks GIRLYmann! Original Price 3,571,429 I have two other knives my cousin gave me in 1969 when he returned from Vietnam. $80-$140 yablanowitz Platinum Member Joined Apr 14, 2006 Messages 9,333 Jun 13, 2009 #3 Depending on the exact age of the knives, they may be very good steel. The Western W-49 is made of 1095 carbon steel. The blade has been sharpened but with care. To enable personalized advertising (like interest-based ads), we may share your data with our marketing and advertising partners using cookies and other technologies. Check out the weather around the world with our featured, global weather cams They made several matching that description, but the most common I see are the 8" G46-8 or L46-8. hardwood handles,leather sheath. The knife on the left is the 2nd variant of the W49 and is blade marked: WESTERN / BOWIE / USA. Timber Rattler Western Outlaw Bowie Knife 29.99 This Timber Rattler Outlaw bowie knife is one powerful full-tang beast that every manly man needs. And the sales receipt is proof of age. You've already signed up for some newsletters, but you haven't confirmed your address. After pulling out his Bowie knife, Mick exclaimed, "THAT'S a knife!" Typically, orders of $35 USD or more (within the same shop) qualify for free standard shipping from participating Etsy sellers. 4,173,623, 8,347,245 Made in the USA!!! I used the Forester first, while I was fresh. Original Price 2,958,284 $120.00, $200.00 JavaScript is disabled. Sorry to dig up an old thread, but it seemed like the right place to add this. (10% off), Sale Price $148.00 Hey zzyzzogeton thanks for all the info its so hard to find good info on early Bowies but I think I have a correction for you, on Western Bowie #5 Version 1 stainless steel Bowie - It should be blade marked not guard marked WESTERN BOWIE on top of STAINLESS STEEL on top of U.S.A. markings on only one side. Etsy uses cookies and similar technologies to give you a better experience, enabling things like: Detailed information can be found in Etsys Cookies & Similar Technologies Policy and our Privacy Policy. 3,338,731, 4,173,456 2,955,665, 9,852,217 It was thrown in the dirt by a local maker. Original Price 6,978,325 (15% off), Sale Price 2,733,744 This is the Western Bowie USA knife and the scarce Vietnam era 2nd variation, this tang stamp was produced circa 1966-1968. (70% off), Sale Price 2,135,468 Although it was mainly used and marketed as a hunting knife, its origins were that of a weapon. Consistently earned 5-star reviews, shipped orders on time, and replied quickly to messages, Looks like you already have an account! Check out completed auctions on the 'Bay for an idea of value. Original Price 2,758,374 Check out the latest price. Original Price 1,206,897 This Auction is for an Authentic Western Boulder U.S.A W49 "M" Bowie Knife w/Wooden Plaque - Circa 1840.1977 was the first year that Western knives started using the alphabet, starting with the letter "A", to date code their knives. For Sale By: Sanders Knives (Sanders Knives), View all items for sale by Sanders Knives, Shipping & Handling to United States Addresses: $8.50. The Bowie knife began as a gift of love from one brother to another, but the weapon proved invaluable in the famous 1827 Sandbar . I also believe that the guard marked "W49's" would have been made during the 1970's but prior to 1977 when the alphabetical date code started. (50% off), Sale Price 1,097,291 In the 19th century, one of the most popular fixed-blade knives, the Bowie, appeared. The 4th variant, I believe, is similarly guard marked and stamped "W49" instead of Bowie, like the 3rd variant, on the pile side. 2,135,468, 7,118,227 This photo illustrates what I mean when I speak of larger pins versus smaller pins. by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:48 am, Post Mine is a coleman with a k stamp on it. In 1978 the company moved to Longmont, CO. Bowie Knife Cold Steel Fixed Blade Knife Knives And Swords When this U.S. Army Ranger was 10 he made a knife. The way you set up your knife photos is inspiring. No chips or cracks in handles. All photos were 10 chops. I'm going to put a better edge on it and try it out! Set where you live, what language you speak, and the currency you use. WESTERN BOULDER / COLO. USA on one side and BOWIE on the other. The W47 measures 12" from tip to hilt, W45 measures 9" and the 43 or mini measures 6 1/2". (50% off), Sale Price 1,666,256 Recently Added Knives by Maker Advanced Search Sell Your Knives. Top Rated Seller. Stainless steel does not peel off as you know. There are two variations of guard marked W49's. The most common by far is the bowie with the wooden handle the (W49). And, especially thanks for posting it here! Original leather sheath. 4,617,980, 6,157,389 I've got several W49 bowies, the oldest dating to around the mid 60s. Covert Knife. Original Price 4,733,728 This will differ depending on what options are available for the item.