Oh, yes, and for the guy who said how can the ceramic remove moisture from the air, if you will look, there is only one model that is also a dehumidifyer, so it is both a heater PLUS a dehumidifyer. Placed an order for the Eden Pure Gen 4 after watching an TV commercial. Before eden pure electric bill $75.00 and Propane bill (75 gals per month/2.99 = 224.25. total monthly costs $299.25, After eden pure electric bill $135.00 and Propane bill (25 gals per month/2.99= 74.75 total monthly costs $209.75, $347.00 for new Gen4, pays for self in 3.87 months, Don't care about all you "stats" just what my check book says, and it tells me the Eden Pure is working for me :))). HOWEVERand this is where I have to now state after research of many heaters, this Gen4 costs .25 an hour to heat. This is an electrical climate-control system which provides heat as well as refrigerated cooling. This means it produces 5118 BTU of heat. EdenPURE claims it uses a copper coil to reduce harsh heat. Get them sealed (don't use 'duct tape', go to a Home Depot or other type store or your htg and A/c dealer or service person and ask them what type sealing tape or other to seal the ductwork). I chose not to not knowing how high those three months would be. A good quality heat pump with good ductwork WILL outperform straight resistance electric heat. Signed Mad from South Dakota and hope there is some kind of class action suit taken against Eden Pure and their misleading clan. I have a completely electric home and wanted to reduce my electric bill as it is very high now. If you can't understand that then you must be stupid. I was just about to order an edenpure heater. Hello everyone,Wow what a group of knowledge about the Eden pure heater glad that I came upon this Hub.I find the info very good, and I would like to thank all of you for your comments especially Energy Eng.,Lots of good suggestions and just good ole plain sense.I've been looking at getting one of the Eden pures and just trying it out to see if it will accommodate some of my heating needs.My wife and I are not sure what type to get ,but we know that the basic hearter furnance is not the most efficient.We will try it and get back to you all.Again thanks for the info and the laughs.God bless and have a wonderful Christmas and Holidays. I have purchased Eden pure heaters 1 is 2 years old and the fan motor is shot and one of the tubes is burned out. This article will examine the claims made by EdenPUREs manufacturer and expose their lies. I'll definitely buy another. Also in the month I ran the Edenpure unit I saw an increase of about 8% on my electric bill versus the radiator unit. And, regardless of what someone said about 1500 watts is 1500 watts and is going to heat the same area, that is not what I have read and have posted (copied and pasted from advertisements). Some people still can't get it. Go to the Home Depot, Lowe's, Cosco etc., and choose the heater out of couple of dozens designs they have there. I am so glad I stumbled on this site first. No complaints at all. Still use the Edin pure in our basement vs, electric baseboard and it works fine. It is a well-marketed $40 electric heater selling for $400 or more. The air movement inside an Edenpure heater is blowing the coldest air on the base of the bulbs and the bulbs cycle on and off frequently. I was specifically sold on Bob Vila's endorsement of the product thinking I can trust the home improvement guru. No its all on the website and in the advert's you've just got to read and understand. Nice flat spot for debris. *** So the smaller heater will produce heat but others that I have tried burn the air. The heating element inside every electric heater is . The person who stated the baseboard is just as efficient may be right about it being as efficient, but only in the sense that it heats the room. We have really high ceilings. 2) a btu, Also, for anyone who's interested, the fans in the small forced air heaters typically fail after about two years. The USA has turned into a scam hotbed. Heat from any 1500 watt electric heater will cost you $35.60 for 1 million btus of heat if you are paying 12 cents a KWH. Stay warm everyone!! sellers and buyers must dedicate ourselves to paying the cost of doing the right thing or the one who doesn't dissappears. The above people are correct, you can only get so much heat out of a given amount of electricity. Heat Pumps are the most cost saving product other than using a fireplace.The japanese use several heatpumps to heat their homes they use one system for living room another for bedrooms this helps lower energy bills. Because heating a wire is less efficient to heating a infared light you can't do a comparison. Most water heaters include a label listing the annual. With the economy and everyone wanting to save money, it is shameful that Mr. Villa put his name on this product. And the glaring discrepancy between SCI's unsubstantiated bulb life claims and what consumers are reporting about the actual bulb life with the Edenpure products shows that SCI's claims have no basis in fact. F0r reference, 1000 hours is about 42 days of continuous run time. ANY 1500 watt electric heater will give you the exact amount of heat, no matter how much, or how little you pay for it. You don't need an EdenPURE product to close vents around your home, not in use. A well designed heater can produce far more heated CFM than a poorly designed heater. They work by drawing electricity over the course of a few hours at night, and storing it as heat in a 'bank' of clay or ceramic bricks to use the following day. When the heating fuel prices were high, Quartz heaters helped by heating the rooms you lived in during the day and so the funace runs less. Construction Company. EdenPURE sells their heaters all day long on their website for $247 plus free shipping so where you got your $400 figure is a mystery. Some are made in China using cheap bulbs and some are made in the usa. I just looked them up, and they are 42.99 plus 9.95 shipping. Furthermore, after you buy the first one they give substantial discounts on future purchases of any of their products. Energy savings will be the same either way. The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers to this website may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. Actual energy savings from high efficiency water heaters depend on family size, heater location, and the size and placement of water pipes. They said they could not do a refund because it was past the 60 days and I said I thought the 60 day thing was for the smart people that decided they didn't want it, not for a DEFECTIVE product of which I have received 2 in a row.Anyway they refused to refund my money so I guess I'm just stuck with this piece of junk. There are millions of happy customers who are telling their friends. i have one, and believe me it has paid for itself, i have hot water heat powered by natural gas. Bill Burkett was the CBS source in the Killian documents affair of 2004. The laws of physics, which can't be changed, say they'll both do the same thing. In repairing my ductwor, I found one unattached duct that was heating my attic! Now she is crying the blues because she could have applied the outrageous price of the heaters and their exhorbitant use of electricity, to her regular heat bill. Gas burners are a hazard in a barn with hay even if only in a side utility room. Types of shades include roller, Roman, blackout, and gentle pull-down cellular. It didn't work so i sent it back to BIO RESEARCH in ohio. I'm absolutely thrilled with my unit. Received a reconditioned unit a week ago. EdenPURE claims stretch the truth. A 1500 watt heater is a 1500 watt heater REGARDLESS of how much you promote it or charge for it! Choosing a selection results in a full page refresh. Why oil-filled? In any case, you can reach the exactly the same result with what EdenPure promises, for a fraction of the cost. Directions to Burkett Heating & Cooling Authorized Dealer & Servicer We are authorized to install, repair, and maintain heating & cooling systems manufactured by some of the most renowned companies in the world. My personal choice - an oil-filled radiator, with the price tag of around $40 to $60. I called them again and realizing that these things must be nothing but junk I told them that I just wanted a refund. dont buy this heater,if you live in California. Always open. Design in an electric heater is everything. As well as my cats! Which means you get 100% of what it cost you. I could not see any savings at all. Eden Pure is a scam because the details are hidden in clever word usage the average person, many of them on here I see, cannot grasp. And it is VERY safe. :). Second is that you can lower your thermastat while only heating an inner room. I used to like him on this old house , but like many of the over the hill broke celebs. Everybody is forsale for a price Even BOB VILLA. I live in a double wall 2500 sq ft log home (outside logs, insulation, inside logs). That is the real savings. Amazon has some of the best prices on heaters and ships right to your door. I would not recommend this product to anyone who is trying to save money while trying to stay warm. turning you main source of heat down for the whole house and just warming up the areas you are in with the Eden Pure heater. I was told that they were still processing my order and that it would have been sent out this week (SURE). When the sunlight is in the right direction, I can see the dust particles floating by the intake. Some Of there customers are saving and are willing to talk about it. You can put a sheet of copper in front of your heater and buffer the heat with an electric heater. Well it depends on what version you get. I live in the South, and that is high for me (keep in mind I have not experienced this because I have not used it 24 hours a day). Receive a $75 bill credit when you enroll your eligible smart thermostat in a qualifying demand response program through one of our authorized thermostat providers. Sorry folks, some things I forgot to point out One item that they point out in the Bob Vila scam (I can't call it anything but!) Infrared heaters are efficient and fast, and can also be a good choice for fast zone heating as they have fans (with all the consequences I mentioned above). The heater might be graet but at this time I don't want to take that chance just incase it is not what BOB VILA claims to be ture. Heater vs. AC unit. I am glad you enjoy your EdenPURE heater. He admitted to lying to CBS about the origin of the memos when he said he got them from fellow guardsman George Conn,[6] then claiming that he received the Killian documents from a woman calling herself "Lucy Ramirez" who has never been identified. Directions to Burkett Heating & Cooling Authorized Dealer & Servicer We are authorized to install, repair, and maintain heating & cooling systems manufactured by some of the most renowned companies in the world. If you were to carefully cover up where air is coming into the hair dryer and feel the front it would get much hotter maybe still not as hot as the heat gun because it has built in overload protection and it will shut off by the time it gets that hot otherwise it might hurt some people. Plus, as someone else said, there are varied types of heat. If a portable electric heater serves your needs, a low-cost model will kick out the same heat as an expensive model. The man in the commercial who stated he saved so much money that he bought two more and his electricity was half CANNOT be correct unless he is not using his EdenPures round the clock like we usually use our central. Like most people have said, 1500 watts of electric energy is just that, 1500 watts, Doesn't matter if it come out of a $20 Walmart heater or a $400 Eden, it'll do the same thing. I use the original carton for storing my heater in the off months. My house has two geothermal units in it, one went out the week of Christmas and I couldn't get anyone in to work on it. I saw Bob Vila's very convincing infomercial and I agree that space heating rooms might be more efficient than a leaky whole-house system, and it does seem logical that one 1500 watt 5000 btu space heater shouldn't be any better than another, but I would be interested to know if any Eden Pure owners have actually found this second point to be true. His school plays football in the shadow of North. Any typical portable electric space heater of 1000-2000 W will produce exactly the same amount of heat as EdenPure. Certainly the bedrooms are cooler, but remember it is a zone heater not meant to warm the entire area of 1250 sq ft, although the bedrooms are not cold. if you live in california, with the EDEN pURE ,PGAETOLD ME THAT IT CAN COST YOU AS HIGH AS 50 CENTS AN HOUR TO RUN IT.my bill is usually 200 in the wintertime,for one month my electricity bill shot up to$360 and i had a saving of $28,gas. All I did was laugh when the very reputable heating and air company in our town quoted this amount. You're a blind moron, since you started name calling, when I'm just trying to help people out. I have three EdenPure heaters that work wonderfully! I'm very disapointed and feel very stupid that I did not google this until now. I will never buy another one and will tell others not to, they are well overrated. If you are going to call names and state things are scams, what do you think about these celebrities, who we would normally feel are honest, endorsing the senior life insurances they state is ONLY 9.00 per UNIT. Call your agent or insurance company if you have any questions. I took a look at these today in a True Value store. First is that your heating plant is grossly inefficient and that your heating ducts practically are routed outside the house to heat the outside before coming back inside. So, for those looking for a way to reduce your bills, why don't you have your attic better insulated, replace your windows (if needed), and have a new heating unit or units installed, finance it all, and pay the extra on the payments instead of on the extra electricity you are using now. yes my electric bill is higher when i run the eden pure, but my gas bill is greatly lowered, my main furnance mainly runs during the day when we are a work, because i dont like leaving the eden pure running when we are not home. It does not lie if you read carefully, but still, misdirection, celebrity endorsement, and colorful marketing meant to make the consumer believe overblown claims cannot make the EdenPURE portable electric heater anything but a scam. Consider Choosing a Different Electric Heater. I borrowed one of these heaters from my Mom and it heated the whole back half of my house. Was informed that my order was not in the system as of yet, was instructed to call back after 24 hrs. How long do the bulbs last, how much do they cost, and does a technician have to do the work? So, for this is is great. Burkett's Heating & Cooling is a premier choice for professional HVAC services in Piqua and Sidney, OH, and surrounding areas. I bought 2 refurbished EP heaters 8 years ago and both are still working just fine. From $15 to the cheapest electric coil and fan garage heater (which I wound NOT recommend as it actually burns oxygen in the air), to $250 fancy infrared "wood stove-looking" (electric, of course) heater. The reason why you can save on your utility bill is because you only heat a limited area of your home instead of heating areas not in use. The BTU (British Thermal Unit) was developed for flame based heat, not electricity. For under $100, you can buy a better-looking, better-built heater that will serve your needs for years to come. I have a 1400 watt heat gun and my wife has a 1800 watt hairdryer. Mr.Vila and Eden Pure do you really think it is fair game on humanity to peddle your wares on them? CLAIM: With other heating sources, you'll notice you get sleepy because they are burning up oxygen. I bet they will not stand behind the heater because you cannot get anyone to answer the phone and they just want you to give up. i.e. A btu IS a btu, weather you use oil, wood, propane, electricity, gasoline, kerosene, camel dung, or a candle to make the heat. I was going to purchase another EdenPure this year for the downstairs, but after seeing the .25 per hour and calculating the cost, that will not save money. Nonetheless, they can be useful for heating small spaces, such as a small room or office cubicle. Payment options through Shop Pay Installments are subject to an eligibility check and are provided by these lending partners: [affirm.com/lenders]. Bobby Burkett ( Logan Huffman) is a promising quarterback for a struggling high-school football team. The key is that the Eden Pure is meant for a certain zone of from 300 - 1000 sq feet depending on the unit you select. They can be made of solid fabric or in the case of honeycomb (cellular) shades can be a blend of paper, lace, and/or fabrics. He's doing this because he thinks its a good product and it is if used in the right situation. It is the wrong measurement for electric heat. I've been in the HVAC field for 40 years. Even a child knows that hot air rises. The EdenPURE performer the same as my $50 Lasko electric heater. Suarez Corporation Industries is advertising a 20,000 hour bulb life and a 10-15 year "service" life (website, printed literature and printed on carton) for both their Edenpure US-1000 and Gen4 heaters. Zero marketing at that point. I did buy a small Pelonis ceramic heater 20 years ago for $100, and it still works. For those of you who have high summer bills, I saved $1500 over the spring and summer months by setting my thermostat on 80 degrees and using floor fans (not box fans, but those on a stand, those that put out a lot of air). Last night it was 24 degrees outside, and inside my living area may have been 60 in the middle of the night, but with daylight, the temp in my living area was 64. etc,. I don't know where you get your sources, but you need to learn to integrate less bias if you expect anyone to believe you. Depending on how long you allow your electric heater to run during the colder winter months, you could see an increase in your electricity usage, along with a higher electricity bill. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 08, 2011: Don, that is why I recommend buying through Amazon so you have their return policy protection. I'm going to have to take back part of the comment about space heaters. A space heater with a linear source of infrared radiant energy in heat exchange relationship with a heat exchanger formed of copper or aluminum material. Divide watts by 1,000 to get kilowatts per hour. No repairs either. No more, no less. The metal shell of a mobile home is excellent for transferring heat: summer heat outside gets in easily and in the winter inside warmth convects to the outdoors with ease. I unpacked this one and turned it on and the fan barely would run. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on November 01, 2011: It looks like we are starting another season of the heater scam. And stop blaming others if you buy the wrong product because you did't do your homework. BTW, I did see a DuraFlame (the maker of the duraflame logs) had a heater with a description that was practically identical to the EdenPure and it was only approximately $225. Bill Burkette, who was the original lead singer of American vocal group The Vogues, died Thursday at the age of 75.The group was formed in 1958 at the old Turtle Creek High School, calling . I'll bet they had a forced-air heat pump. A FEW YEARS AGO A CITY ELECTRIC INSPECTER TOLD ME SOMETHING THAT REALLY WORKS. Poor Rita still doesn't get that cubic feet is the area that you have to heat, in a room. This scam reminds me of Obama: you can pretty much lie and say anything you want for a long time and get away with it ! 1500 watts of electric heat will cost you the same in a $20.00 heater, or a ripoff $400.00 one. It has exactly the same power of 1000 to 2000 Watts as everything else including EdenPure. About the same. You are just cutting costs by heating a smaller areasomething you could have done without a $400 space heater. I have been in this house for 10 years, so in 10 years, I have spent just in those 3 months alone $15,000. If you read it carefully, it never really claims that the Eden Pure heater is a miraculous heat source. Secure it to the basement wall using the appropriate masonry anchors for your foundation wall. We have the 1000, and the 1000XL, the are the first ones. Buyer beware ! Although electric heaters do heat a room, there are more energy efficient ways of doing that. And yes the personal heater that heats 50 s f is only the size Of a prison cell. Download PDF manuals for your EdenPURE product. Don't buy Edenpure heater they are scammer. P.S. i bought an eden pure heater for both myself and my elderly father and neither one will turn on after the first few times we used them with the screen flashing "not level" even though i used a level to verify they were sitting level .unfortunately this issue was not discovered until the start of the second year of use. If I spend less, good. Perhaps another heater would work as well, but this one works real well. The family film tells the story of Bobby Burkett (Huffman), the quarterback for Louisville St. Thomas Aquinas, a small catholic high school. I don't care who it ripping me off if I am getting ripped off. Also, dont buy Cub Cadet. So, that is where your decision lies if the small and inexpensive heater does not cost any more to use and will heat the same square footageDo you feel safe with the cheap one? Propane gas-burning fireplaces. Is anyone anymore really honest? Look at memy trusty Lasso heater is only $25 and can easily heat a small room. Of course, they are not as pretty, and being a woman I do want my house pretty, but again if I can save that much money by not using the air until it hits 80 in the house (and BTW the a/c does not stay on long with the fans on). If you rent, I would go with the DuraFlame at half the price and monitor the use, wear sweats, socks, and you will not only save money, you will be warm enough and have lower bills.+. Those watts exactly represent the energy you will get. Claiming an electric heater will reduce your energy bill at all is stretching the truth. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. With the cost of propane today at over $5.49/gal anything you can do to offset propane useage is a ++++++. I would not with a $20-$40 heater from one of the big box stores. You are dead wrong pilgrim. This actually makes their heater less efficient. Heating the ceramic creates a more even heat. Of course heat rises, but are any of you 8 feet tall to feel that it may be warmer at the ceiling?? Unfortunately the answer is "No, the efficiency is identical.". I don't doubt people are saving money using the Eden Pure heater because "zone heating"I has to save money by not heating unused areas. I love it. Is the $300 Edenpure any better than a regular $20 electric space heater for any purpose? Someone should be going after SCI for false advertising at a minimum. Issues of safety, durability, and return on investment must be considered before purchasing one of the most expensive portable infrared heaters on the market. Bobby Burkett ( Logan Huffman) is a promising quarterback for a struggling high-school football team. If you want to prove it to yourself then put a thermometer in two of the same size rooms that start out at the same temp and are the same size turn then both on the highest setting at the same time and watch the temp increase I can promise the hair dryer will win. They have two 1000 watt and 1500 watt settings and will heat 200 sq feet, but from what I read, the 1500 watt setting is using more electricity. I have two Eden Pures in my home and they really work. It does heat evenly. I'm paying $0.17 per KWH, or $2.04 for an 8 hour run per day. This biographical article related to the United States military is a stub. I've had my EdenPure for over 10 years and it's still going strong. In fact, I had to get up and turn down the heat later as I was sweating. The claims include: There are a few ways to use a portable electric heater to save money: Electric heaters are not an efficient way to heat a home cheaply. FUVM. Edenpure heaters are CRAP. To calculate an approximate heater size for an outdoor pool, follow these steps: Determine your desired pool temperature. d.william from Somewhere in the south on December 01, 2011: Good article. When I pulled the heater out this winter nothing happened. U CANT HEAT HOT WATER DUH! Kromstraat 25 1.2, 2520 Ranst, Belgium. I purchaser 2 EP 2 years ago and they work fine in my 1900sq foot home.I bought them to stop those money grubbing gas companys.I read all you're complaints,and no one had the common sense to understand some people may just want to get the oil money suckers out of their lives. This is the second blog I have complained on. As the . What a total scam and very disappointed with Bob Vila!! 1st Lt. George W. Bush in uniform. where is the savings plus spending $900.00 on the units. Square feet is the area of floor space, cubic feet is the amount of air in a room. You also only heat one room so it costs over $2 per room at an 8 hour run. I plugged it in this spring to take the chill out. I did consider the possibility of buying one, but after reading your hub i re-read the brochure and realized that this was also extremely misleading without actually lying. Updating my comments on the EdenPure. Sign in to create job alert. He claimed that in 1997, while outside the governor's office in Austin, he overheard a conversation about "wanting to bury George W. Bush's Vietnam service record". [5], Burkett's claims about the origins of the documents have since changed several times. Oh Al, It is you who does not understand electric restisance heating AT ALL Continue to believe what you want to believe. The square feet/cubic feet issue comes from EdenPURE ads from a few years ago when I wrote the original article. Jobinhoud: Voor een familiebedrijf in Ranst gaan wij op zoek naar een Customer Service Officer die zal fungeren als centraal aanspreekpunt voor onze klanten.Je helpt hen enthousiast verder bij vragen ivm het productaanbod, prijzen, bestellingen & klachten.Verder bestaat jouw takenpakket uit: Afhandelen van eigen dossiers (bestelbonnen aanpassen, lijsten opmaken, leveringen/retourbons inzetten,) PERIOD. 600 Frontage Rd, Ripon, CA 95366-2003. Put an infrared heater in your bedroom. The number one reason not to buy a Bio Tech Research Eden Pure is people just like you and me on this site have given specific factual examples being abused after the sale by things which should have been disclosed before the sale.
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